When Peter Hyams set out to produce and direct 2010: The Year We Make Contact, he found out Kubrick (or someone else) had everything from the previous movie - the sets, the miniatures, the props - destroyed.
Speculations about why exactly Kubrick (or someone else) did so have made appearances ever since the production of 2001: A Space Odyssey wrapped up. What is seldom mentioned is that it is standard procedure to wreck movie sets after principal photography is concluded. If the shooting sets were kept indefinitely sound stages across the planet would be crammed to the rafters with set after set, continuously adding one more for every movie ever made. There seems to exist a tendency to ascribe sinister reasons for many behaviors. In this case, however, it seems it is not warranted. In fact Stanley Kubrick told 2010 special effects supervisor Richard Edlund before the recreation of the Discovery began that "the [Discovery] models were left in England in storage [and that] finally M-G-M didn't want to absorb the storage charges for them anymore and decided to destroy them." So it was 'someone else' that had them destroyed, after all. And that 'someone else' was none other than the production company.
Kubrick was not entirely unimpeachable regarding wanton destruction, though. When Hyams' crew began planning and building the sets they were told Kubrick had incinerated the plans for the sets as well. The obvious solution was then to create entirely new floor and building plans for a re-created Discovery. The only reference the crew could use was the film itself. Production designer Albert Brenner and his team used 70 mm blow-ups from the original movie as reference pictures for their recreations. Here we will take a look at just how well they managed to copy the designs of 2001.
Note:
While there are some anecdotes floating around on the web about re-creating the 2001 centrifuge, I have it on rather good authority (production designer Albert Brenner himself) that recreating the centrifuge was never even considered. When producer and director Hyams wrote the script he realized the centrifuge would have eaten such a huge chunk - a projected $10 million - of the $28 million budget, and for very little screen time, he rather quickly decided the team would not rebuild it. Cost-per-frame would simply have been too massive. (The same reasoning gave the Leonov its spinning middle section: filming actors in constant zero-G would have cost too much.) The pod bay, the command bridge, the 'brain room' of HAL, and the access corridors were the set pieces the production team rebuilt, four reconstructions in all.
The monitors
Note:
While there are some anecdotes floating around on the web about re-creating the 2001 centrifuge, I have it on rather good authority (production designer Albert Brenner himself) that recreating the centrifuge was never even considered. When producer and director Hyams wrote the script he realized the centrifuge would have eaten such a huge chunk - a projected $10 million - of the $28 million budget, and for very little screen time, he rather quickly decided the team would not rebuild it. Cost-per-frame would simply have been too massive. (The same reasoning gave the Leonov its spinning middle section: filming actors in constant zero-G would have cost too much.) The pod bay, the command bridge, the 'brain room' of HAL, and the access corridors were the set pieces the production team rebuilt, four reconstructions in all.
The monitors
The 2001 bridge above, the 2010 bridge below. |
The first thing viewers often notice is the change in Discovery's monitors. These are visible in a couple of places: the command bridge, the pod bay, and there is even one in the 'brain room'. The monitors in the previous movie were rear projected animations, which made the monitors appear as flat screens. However the monitors in 2010 are ordinary Sony CRT monitors. There are anecdotes about Kubrick pondering whether or not to use actual CRT monitors in 2001: A Space Odyssey, the way they appeared in 1964 to 1966, but ultimately deciding to use rear projection and Douglas Trumbull's hand made animations. [There exists one (1) computer animation in 2001: A Space Odyssey. See if you can spot it.] There are also anecdotes about Hyams doing the exact opposite, pondering whether on not to use rear projection as in the previous movie, or whether to go with CRT monitors. As we know he decided on the latter - ultimately the decision was made in cooperation with the effects crew - giving 2010 the look it has today. Hyams wanted a specific look for the Leonov, and hired the Los Angeles based company Video Image to create the computer monitor animations. The same monitor setup was then also used on the Discovery. The decision was very logical given the year the movie was made - 1984 - but it mercilessly dates the movie, making it a child of it's time, in contrast to the more timeless epic that 2001: A Space Odyssey is. We cannot really blame Hyams for this, there was no way of predicting in 1984 the flat screens of 2010, and the fact is Kubrick simply made a lucky guess.
Another small change that can be noticed is the HAL panel: the panel is slightly differently colored, and the trim surrounding the screens has changed from black to white in 2010.
The CRT monitors are of course not restricted to the Discovery alone. The Leonov set is littered with them, too, but the Russian ship is exclusive to 2010. The Leonov is a case of sui generis and thus will not be examined here.
The bridge
Aftward view of the bridges. |
The aft part of the bridge has also had some major reconstruction. The side walls filled with gauges, buttons and meters are all gone, and the door towards the centrifuge access does not seem to have any function, nor does it even look the same. In 2001: A Space Odyssey the door had horizontal ridges from side to side, in 2010 the access door is plain white flatness.
The button panels on the outer sides of the seats are also gone, and interestingly seat belts have been added.
Another major difference is the topography differences of the two different Discovery ships. This is apparent in the scene where Heywood Floyd confronts Dave Bowman as the ethereal Starbeing. Bowman exits the bridge toward the left of the screen - looking backwards this is the starboard side of the Discovery vessel - via an opening. In the original there existed no such opening and even if one were there, such an exit would lead straight into the 'brain room' of HAL.
The Pod Bay
The 2001 and 2010 pod bays. |
The pod bay is the other big set piece reconstructed from 2001: A Space Odyssey. There are numerous differences between the sets, and a select few will be presented here.
The velcro mats on the floor - which both Frank Poole and Dave Bowman never step outside of in the 1968 movie - are now replaced by a black, glossy paint. Also, white squares and round shapes have appeared on the raised parts of the floor. In contrast the round fuel dispensers for the pods have disappeared from the ceiling. The outer doors are no longer beveled in 2010, as they were in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
HAL
HAL as he appears 9 or 16 years apart, depending on your chosen reality. |
The HAL console in the pod bay of 2010 is quite different from the 2001 version; the dimensions of the computer desks are quite unsimilar. The 2010 console is much deeper than the earlier 1968 version, mostly to be able to hold the CRT monitor. In 1968 the monitor ratio was exactly 1:1, in 1984 it had become the standard 3:4 ratio. Compared to the younger HAL, the older console seems much more elegant. Again, the HAL panel is differently colored, and has slightly wider dimensions.
The later variant also adds a grey keyboard, something that was not present on the original Discovery spaceship in any form (in fact, the only extant keyboard in 2001 is an organ keyboard in the centrifuge shown only in passing); in the earlier rendition the HAL console hosted a flat screen in the same position. Naturally there are other, rather irrelevant divergences, such as the types of lights and switches used, but those are insignificant.
Accessways
Accessways in 2001 and 2010. |
One thing 2010 adds to the topology of the Discovery is another accessway. When Heywood Floyd is following the ethereal Starbeing that was Dave Bowman down into the pod bay, he is walking towards a big, red '1' at the end of an accessway, clearly marking this as 'Accessway One'. Later in the movie HAL informs Heywood Floyd that engineer Walter Curnow is in 'Accessway Two', this is also shown with a big, blue '2' at the end of the corridor where Curnow is sitting holding Maxim's hat. The velcro strips are gone, too.
The storage lockers, clearly visible on the walls of the accessway, are gone in the later variation.
The storage lockers, clearly visible on the walls of the accessway, are gone in the later variation.
The way the Discovery is configured, these two scenes present some problems. Accessway One would be, according to 2001 topology, a cul-de-sac. There would be no way for Heywood Floyd to enter it, except through the door shown, there simply are no other exits. The other problem is that there simply is not enough space inside the hull of the Discovery to host an additional structure as large as Accessway Two. It is never made explicit where this mysterious Accessway Two resides, and it was in fact introduced solely for purposes of script writing. In fact there was a complete scene with dialogue between Heywood Floyd and Walter Curnow shot in Accessway Two that never made it to the final cut. Model supervisor Mark Stetson said "there were other parts of the ship that you never saw in the first film, so we had to assume a symmetry or do whatever we wanted, depending on the physical requirements of the model."
HAL's Brain Room
Dave Bowman and Dr. Chandra visiting the 'brain room'. |
The 'brain room' of HAL has some minor differences, too. During Dr. Chandra's revival efforts he interacts with HAL via a keyboard. This is yet another of the many keyboards that are introduced on board the Discovery in 2010. In 1968 HAL had no keyboard interfaces anywhere. In fact, in 1968 there were no keyboards on board the American spaceship at all. None that we know of, at least.
The 'brain room' of 1968 also housed six flat screen monitors, it is via one of these Dave Bowman finally learns the details of the Jupiter mission when HAL starts playing the pre-recorded video in its death throes. The six flat screens are nowhere to be seen in 2010, but a CRT monitor has been added.
There are naturally other differences, too. They range from the negligible to the minuscule to the outright ridiculous. However, the point of the reconstructed Discovery sets is to create the illusion of continuity. The sets succeed extremely well in doing so, and even when the most obvious differences are pointed out, the viewer cannot help but to be immersed into the space vehicle once again.
Production designer Albert Brenner and his team - especially designer Leslie Ekker - really did do a spectacular job. After all, Brenner and his team received an Academy Award nomination for his work.
It's hard to beat such a level of recognition.
Though curiously, when they enter the pod Bay for the first time in 2010, the HAL console appears they way it did in 2001, with its 1:1 ratio monitor, albeit frost/dust covered.
ReplyDeleteHyams should have been more faithfully in the reproduction of the Discovery with the flat 1:1 displays, BUT, having the Leonov with the CRTs for contrast. Also, the craftsmanship was a little sloppy on the glossy black panels surrounding Discovery's bridge monitors... a lot of dents and finger smudges. Still, I love this sequel film!
ReplyDeleteWhere was the computer animation? Please don't say it was the rotating antenna when HAL discovers the AE-35 fault: that was painted wire.
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/2001archives/status/1009632337267646464
"... Doug Trumbull, who did airbrush paintings for films, hit a speedbump: Computer-generated graphics didn’t exist in any real way yet. MIT, where Kubrick had met with AI and robotics professor Marvin Minsky, was developing them, but they had a resolution of just 512 pixels across. That was advanced for the 1960s, but Kubrick knew it would be too crude for the year 2001. "
https://www.wired.com/2015/08/amazingly-accurate-futurism-2001-space-odyssey/
NUmerous instances of characters in what was supposed to be a free-fall setting acting as though they were in a one-G environment: Curnow lounging in "Accessway 2" as shown in the photo included here; Floyd storming out of the Pod Bay exclaiming: "I didn't KNOW!"; Floyd entering the Leonov bridge (in the non-centrifuge part of the ship) at a dead run, only to use two weightless "floating" pens to demonstrate to Kirbuk the perturbation maneuver using Discovery as a booster ... and I seem to remember another Pod Bay scene showing Curnow (I think it was Curnow) lounging against one of Discovery's pods with his elbow in a thruster nozzle!
ReplyDeleteI completely agree. I don't expect Kubrick Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder level of attention to detail in a film made by someone besides Kubrick, but the glaring indifference to realism in your 2010 examples are just unacceptable, and disrespectful to the original film.
DeleteIt must also be noted that at that time in 1984, home video was in its infancy, and then at a much lower resolution than we have now with digital.
ReplyDeleteYes, the production crew was able to use references from a 70mm print of 2001, but even that would garner some visual limitations, not to mention the limitations of budget, and the consideration that the average movie-goer would be even less attentive of even the most insignificant detail that virtually everybody in the digital age is now able to obsess over.
I co-host a movie podcast, in which my co-host (my brother and best friend) and I have often pointed out how HD transfers of older movies tends to reveal what we now consider to be goofs and error. As he has said in one or two episodes, "The filmmakers probably didn't expect that a couple of nerds like us would in a decade or three be watching these movies over-and-over and pointing out every single little discrepancy." Why would/should they? They've got a budget and a schedule to keep, and as you point out, the goal was to create the illusion of continuity.
If 2010 were being made today (albeit 11 years past its titular timeframe), I can't imagine that such a compulsively obsessive level of detail between the two films would be an issue.
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